Employment Rights Bill Debate
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(3 months, 2 weeks ago)
Lords Chamber Baroness Smith of Llanfaes (PC)
    
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Baroness Smith of Llanfaes (PC) 
        
    
        
    
        My Lords, I will also speal to my Amendment 48. I have tabled these amendments to address a critical and long-standing gap in how we protect workers from sexual harassment and gender-based violence in the workplace. They are, at their heart, about prevention and ensuring that employers have a proactive duty to make workplaces safer, and that the Health and Safety Executive has a clear, enforceable role in holding them to account. As we all know, prevention is better than cure. They seek to amend the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974 to place an explicit duty on employers under the oversight of the HSE to prevent workplace harassment and violence, including sexual harassment and gender-based abuse.
 Baroness Smith of Llanfaes (PC)
    
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Baroness Smith of Llanfaes (PC) 
        
    
        
    
        I thank the Minister for his answer. I must admit that that answer does not counter the fact that the burden of proof remains on  individuals rather than employers. I have previously shared a number of cases where, for example, big companies have had lots of media attention around lots of harassment claims but have only received a warning letter from the EHRC, in comparison with other businesses—for example, the two care homes whose cases I shared—that are treated very differently. So I am not convinced that what we currently have in regulation actually makes a difference to individual workers who are experiencing these incidents in their workplace. However, I am grateful to the Minister for recognising the importance of prevention and that there is more to be done. So, on this occasion, I will withdraw my amendment, but we will be pressing this with the Government further.
I will welcome the opportunity to look at this, particularly when the VAWG strategy is published in September. However, I must remind the Government that there has to be a cross-departmental approach. It should not be up to just one department to set it out; there is also a responsibility for this department to use all the options it has. Just doing good is not good enough—why cannot we try to achieve the best outcomes for these workers? On this occasion, I beg leave to withdraw my amendment.