Debates between Baroness Sanderson of Welton and Lord McKenzie of Luton during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Tax: Church Action for Tax Justice Reports

Debate between Baroness Sanderson of Welton and Lord McKenzie of Luton
Thursday 21st January 2021

(3 years, 11 months ago)

Grand Committee
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Lord McKenzie of Luton Portrait Lord McKenzie of Luton (Lab) [V]
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My Lords, we are asked to join a big conversation on tax, focusing on the unfairness of much of our current system. We have heard about some of that, including some of the international dimensions. Our starting point at this juncture is that taxation is, or should be, about a common good—not a necessary evil. Judgments about fairness are not just about tax rates; they are about accessibility of the benefits in the tax system and for whom they were designed. The Low Incomes Tax Reform Group has just published its practical steps, which note that tax and associated social security systems could be made to work better for those on low incomes.

The church reports are right to identify as unfair the benefits for those who can, depending on the circumstances, organise their income in such a way as to take advantage of a capital gains regime or, indeed, a more favourable income regime, with deferral in appropriate circumstances. In introducing this debate, the right reverend Prelate focused on council tax, and I agree entirely about the nature of its unfairness. I wonder whether the hangover from the poll tax is an inhibiting factor in addressing it more rigorously.

Inheritance tax has become virtually voluntary. At a time when the national finances have been laid bare by the pandemic, with an expected deficit of something like £400 billion, surely it is time to consider a wealth tax, about which we have now heard from the Wealth Tax Commission, the governing body.

The Tax Justice Network Briefing describes circumstances in which, through technicalities, taxpayers are able to minimise and lower taxation charges that operate internationally and in overseas jurisdictions. It is suggested that the benefits of doing so could amount to something like $500 billion, although that seems a somewhat simplistic figure. This can involve the use, as described, of tax haven jurisdictions, taking advantage of financial secrecy and helping to mask the true ownership of funds. We are told—we have heard it again this evening—that the Crown dependencies and overseas territories are up to their necks in these activities and are central to tax avoidance and evasion. I think that the Minister has committed to making some changes—

Baroness Sanderson of Welton Portrait Baroness Sanderson of Welton (Con)
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I am sorry but perhaps I may remind the noble Lord of the three-minute speaking limit.

Lord McKenzie of Luton Portrait Lord McKenzie of Luton (Lab) [V]
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I am sorry. I will leave it there.