Debates between Baroness Rawlings and Baroness Manzoor during the 2017-2019 Parliament

National Health Service: Nurses

Debate between Baroness Rawlings and Baroness Manzoor
Tuesday 8th January 2019

(5 years, 10 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Manzoor Portrait Baroness Manzoor
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The noble Baroness is absolutely right to say that we need the staff to deliver the long-term plan and that without them we cannot do that; it is very important. We recognise absolutely that Brexit is a pressure on the system, but we should also recognise that 4,800 more professionals from the EU are now working in the NHS than there were at the date of the referendum. We are of course lifting the cap on Tier 2 visas so that more nurses and skilled clinical staff will be working within the NHS. We value EU and international staff because they genuinely make a difference to our NHS.

Baroness Rawlings Portrait Baroness Rawlings (Con)
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My Lords, if there is the shortage of nurses that the Minister describes, will the Government consider auxiliary and volunteer nursing staff along the lines of VADs in the past? I declare an interest as a former VAD nurse.

Baroness Manzoor Portrait Baroness Manzoor
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I recognise the point made by my noble friend and she is right to say that we need a diversity of people coming in to the profession. We have plans to train up to 5,000 nursing associates through the apprenticeship route through 2018 along with up to 7,500 in 2019. That offers a foundation course from which student nurses can move into other areas, involving either further apprenticeship or nurse degree courses.