Chemicals (Health and Safety) and Genetically Modified Organisms (Contained Use) (Amendment etc.) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020

Baroness Parminter Excerpts

Wednesday 9th December 2020 Grand Committee

[Baroness Parminter (LD) [V]]

Like my colleagues, I thank the Minister and the civil servants for organising the briefing meeting and for so patiently taking those of us who were there through this complex statutory instrument.

I certainly do not oppose the statutory instrument. I accept that there are no policy changes and that it is about operationalising existing legislation and implementing the Northern Ireland protocol. However, it is another SI that brings home the reality of Brexit and the loss of co-operation with the European Chemicals Agency, which, over decades, has built up its reputation as a centre of knowledge on the safe management of chemicals for the benefit of both humans and the environment.

We all share, I am sure, the hope that there is still a possibility of co-operation between the UK and the ECHA if there were to be a deal between the UK and the EU. Irrespective of that, the UK is now creating its own regulatory process, which will be a major headache for our businesses, with two time-consuming, separate processes if they want to sell products in both the UK and the EU, obstacles around data sharing and data rights, and indeed more expense.

As the noble Baroness, Lady Altmann, rightly highlighted, there is the risk of divergence, as the rules can be interpreted in different ways, with two different legal regimes. Clearly, that will mean divergence not just between the EU and the UK but, as this SI makes clear, between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK.

One issue that I would like to touch on that other colleagues have not—I do not wish to repeat the excellent points that they have already made—is the fact that this SI specifies, for the first time, timeframes for the decision-making by the HSE and UK Ministers to approve substances after 31 December. Currently, the legislation states “without undue delay”. I contend that it could be seen as pre-emptive to batten down the hatches so firmly in this legislation by setting timeframes for those decisions.

Why? As the Minister made clear in her opening remarks, there has been no consultation on this statutory instrument. While of course businesses will always say that they want more certainty, we do not know that that is something that the business community really felt was an imperative. Secondly, as the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh of Pickering, and others have made clear, the HSE has yet to have the capacity, and indeed the certainty of resources, to be able to deliver all those duties. So there is a real question mark about whether sufficient time is being given to undertake all the necessary tests, and to consult appropriately with affected stakeholders, so that the HSE and Ministers can form a judgment.

It is disappointing that in the Explanatory Memorandum there is no mention of undertaking environmental assessments, whereas it does mention working with economists to produce a proportionate impact estimate. That is particularly worrying, given that once the Environment Bill comes on to the statute book, all departments and agencies, including the HSE, will be obliged to apply the Government’s policy statement on environmental principles, including interpreting the precautionary principle. Therefore, like other colleagues, I hope the Minister can reassure us that there will be sufficient time and resources to undertake all the necessary tests so that business and the British public have continued confidence in the safety of the chemicals that will be used in our country.

Food: Food Banks

Baroness Parminter Excerpts

Tuesday 2nd July 2013 Lords Chamber

[Lord Freud]

My Lords, as I said, food banks are not part of the welfare system. We have designed our welfare system to support people with advances of benefit where they require it. It is not the job of the DWP to monitor this provision, which is done on a charitable basis.

[Baroness Parminter]

My Lords, the refusal of crisis loans is one of the reasons why people are turning to food banks. Do this Government intend to scrutinise the provision of crisis loans, given that the funding for them has recently transferred to local authorities and devolved Administrations?

[Lord Freud]

My Lords, I can assure my noble friend that the DWP is retaining advances of benefit within the core benefit system. The crisis elements of the Social Fund—the community grants—are going towards local welfare provision by local authorities. This happened in April. My information is that that transfer has landed well.