Integrated Care Boards: Budgets
Debate between Baroness Merron and Lord Bellingham(1 month, 3 weeks ago)
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Baroness Merron (Lab)
No ICB should be taking that line. My noble friend is aware that in line with the 10-year plan, NHS England has asked integrated care boards to reduce their running costs. I emphasise running costs, which are not the front-line costs. On the meeting with the former Secretary of State, I can assure my noble friend that the information and views given will of course be brought to the attention of the current Secretary of State. NHS England is the body responsible for dealing with ICBs, their performance and their ways of meeting what is required of them.
Lord Bellingham (Con)
My Lords, the new Norfolk and Suffolk ICB was officially launched on 1 April this year, formed by merging the Norfolk and Waveney ICB with Suffolk. The Minister stated at the time that the streamlining process would reduce running costs by 50%. Can she give a timeline for these savings? Will those figures will be impacted by the inevitable cost of the restructuring?
Baroness Merron (Lab)
To develop further the reply I gave to my noble friend, ICBs have been asked to reduce their running cost allowance to a cap of £19.40 per head of weighted population for the financial year 2026-27, which the noble Lord was asking about. I have to emphasise that by focusing on 36 ICBs and building them around nine clusters, people in ICBs will be able to pool budgets, cut their running costs and be more efficient. I think that is very welcome.
Health and Adult Social Care Reform
Debate between Baroness Merron and Lord Bellingham(1 year, 7 months ago)
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Baroness Merron (Lab)
My noble friend, as always, makes very practical observations. I totally agree with the point about bureaucracy in terms of care homes. I have experienced that as I have power of attorney for an elderly friend, and I constantly wonder: if I am struggling with it, what would it be like for somebody who perhaps is not as used as I am to dealing with forms, organisations and, indeed, bureaucracy? It is extremely troubling. Yes, that will be part of what we will be looking at to improve social care—and also the discharge ability that we were talking about earlier. Valuing care workers, professionalising the service and recognising them are all key. I agree that it should be a natural move from being a care worker into a clinical setting, but we also need to recruit people to be care workers, retain them and upskill them, which is so important.
Lord Bellingham (Con)
My Lords, on the vexed subject of delayed discharge of very elderly patients who have been admitted from care homes, quite often with ailments such as flu, medicine management, wound-dressing management, et cetera, surely the key is to ensure that many of these patients are not admitted in the first place. This follows on from the last question about the training of care workers. Is there an argument for enhancing their training so they become better carers in terms of dealing with these problems? Can the Minister say something about what I know has been tried in a number of care homes: having intermediate NHS beds in care homes?
Baroness Merron (Lab)
Both the points that the noble Lord makes are very welcome and shine a light on the need to be more flexible in the range of services and care provided. It should not be just an either/or. People have intermediate stages. Some of the issues about discharge are about having a position in the middle, which is more about rehabilitation, and having the things in place to allow people perhaps to return home or to some other setting.
There is also the point about having a range of settings. Currently, the offer is perhaps too restrictive, although not in all places, as there are some excellent examples. We must be much more creative in the kind of offer that is available and in the training of care workers, not just for the service that they offer to patients, which is important, but for their professionalisation and their morale in their jobs.