Health: Talking Therapy

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall Excerpts

Tuesday 3rd December 2013 Lords Chamber

[Earl Howe]

My Lords, the noble Lord’s perception would be shared by many, which is why we have been very clear in our mandate to NHS England that parity of esteem is of the essence, and we will hold the service to account for that. I do not have the specific statistics that the noble Lord seeks but we know that more people are being treated in secondary mental health services now than two or three years ago. However, the proportion who needed to be admitted to in-patient psychiatric care fell over that period, and that reflects increasing emphasis on care in the community.

[Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall (Lab)]

My Lords, as someone who has benefited from CBT on a number of occasions, may I ask whether the noble Earl agrees that it is not just a question of whether people need the therapy but rather that they receive enough of it? Following the question of the noble Lord, Lord Alderdice, about the number of people who could benefit from this, what is the average number of sessions of talking therapy that a National Health Service mental health patient will receive and is it, generally speaking, enough?

[Earl Howe]

My Lords, I apologise to the noble Baroness as I do not have that information in my brief. If it is available, I will write to her with the answer.