Debates between Baroness Brown of Cambridge and Baroness O'Loan during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Wed 16th Mar 2022
Health and Care Bill
Lords Chamber

Lords Hansard - Part 2 & Report stage: Part 2

Health and Care Bill

Debate between Baroness Brown of Cambridge and Baroness O'Loan
Lords Hansard - Part 2 & Report stage
Wednesday 16th March 2022

(2 years, 9 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Brown of Cambridge Portrait Baroness Brown of Cambridge (CB)
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My Lords, at this very late hour, I just rise to say that I hope your Lordships will not confuse individual anecdotes, however moving, with the very extensive scientific evidence base quoted by the noble Baronesses, Lady Sugg and Lady Watkins.

Baroness O'Loan Portrait Baroness O’Loan (CB)
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My Lords, what is proposed in this amendment is a fundamental change in the law. What we must look at is, I think, fundamentally for each woman, what actually happens in each situation, and what care is provided for the woman in that situation.

I believe that the Government were right to say that this provision would come to an end and that it is not necessarily safe. There are major uncertainties for many women when they conceive. They do not always know when their last period was, as noble Lords have said. But it is not just that. They do not always know the nature of their own medical health and the consequences of taking the telemedical abortion pills.

In that period after 2020 alone, 10,000 women needed hospital treatment for the complications arising from telemedical abortions. It is not an anecdote but a scientific fact that losing a baby, whether by miscarriage or by abortion, is a very bloody and, on occasion, very painful business, which gives rise to all sorts of problems and complications.