Independent Commission on Adult Social Care

Debate between Baroness Blake of Leeds and Lord Macpherson of Earl's Court
Tuesday 22nd July 2025

(1 week, 6 days ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Blake of Leeds Portrait Baroness Blake of Leeds (Lab)
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I thank the noble Lord for making reference to the work of our noble friend Lord Lipsey, who will be greatly missed on all sides. I cannot pre-empt what the noble Baroness, Lady Casey, will say—I have made that point repeatedly; it is absolutely right. The noble Lord raised an interesting point of view. I am sure he will take every opportunity to feed that into the work that is ongoing.

Lord Macpherson of Earl's Court Portrait Lord Macpherson of Earl’s Court (CB)
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My Lords, one of the most sensible measures introduced by Mr Sunak when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer was a health and social care levy. Sadly, its abolition is the one measure which survived from the Kwasi Kwarteng Budget of 2022. The benefit of a health and social care levy is that it is possible to square it with the Labour Party’s manifesto. I therefore encourage the Minister to suggest that the noble Baroness, Lady Casey, also considers the funding of social care.

Baroness Blake of Leeds Portrait Baroness Blake of Leeds (Lab)
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I have a feeling that the noble Lord will make sure that the noble Baroness, Lady Casey, is well aware of the issues he raises. I look forward to the outcome of those conversations.