Debates between Alec Shelbrooke and David Rutley during the 2010-2015 Parliament

Budget Responsibility and National Audit Bill [Lords]

Debate between Alec Shelbrooke and David Rutley
Monday 14th February 2011

(13 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Alec Shelbrooke Portrait Alec Shelbrooke (Elmet and Rothwell) (Con)
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In this debate on the Bill and the Office for Budget Responsibility, I would like to focus on the word “responsibility”. Interestingly, Members in other parts of the House have focused on the downgrading of the growth forecast from 2.6%, to 2.3%, to 2.1% and possibly lower, but at no point has it been said that this allows the Chancellor to ensure that we have a Budget that is based on facts rather than on what he would like the growth figures to be. That is the problem of previous years that led to a bunker scenario.

David Rutley Portrait David Rutley (Macclesfield) (Con)
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I wonder whether my hon. Friend has noticed that the Institute for Fiscal Studies has said:

“If an OBR had been in existence over recent years it might have discouraged Gordon Brown from persevering with fiscal forecasts that most independent analysts thought over-optimistic from 2002 onwards”.

Alec Shelbrooke Portrait Alec Shelbrooke
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I am most grateful for my hon. Friend’s intervention, which makes my point. If the OBR had been there in the past, it would not have been possible to proceed with the bunker mentality that I mentioned. Alternatively, the Chancellor could still have moved forward with the same forecast, but everybody would have known exactly where the blame lay and got rid of the arguments that we hear time and again whenever we talk about the horrific financial mess that this country is in—the chorus from Labour Members saying, “It’s the banks, it’s the banks.”